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[I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273003] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 00:56
Stacie Hanes  
Okay, now that I'm done with school for a few weeks, I can think.

I'm arriving on Sunday, August 12 at a sort of breakfasty hour. I'm starting
off by visiting with Alec & family for a few days. While visiting with Alec,
we plan to see Graham's fetish fair in London, Jane Austen's grave &
environs, and Oxford. Oxford is a bit general, but I haven't had a chance to
figure out what about Oxford I want to see.

I expect I'll be hanging around with Alec until at least the middle of the
15th, for many reasons, but not least that he's the chap who persuaded me to
come over.

That leaves a couple of days before the con. Gid mentioned Wales, and I
think Jenny Delaney mentioned Bath. If you'd like to firm up, confirm, or
deny knowledge of actual plans for that, let me know.

Probably good dates for a London meet would be the 15th, 16th, maybe the
17th. Comments?

Then there's the con. I would prefer to travel there in company with someone
or several someones.

After the con, my only firm plans are to visit with Philippa in Nottingham
and Andrew in Manchester.

I need to be back at the airport for a noon flight out from LGW on Saturday
the 26th.

Budget is a consideration; I just need to be semi-conservative with my
spending.


I'd also like comments on what I should definitely bring, and what I might
think of bringing but won't need.

--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students,
AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion & AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED
"If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible
warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273214 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 19:13
Andrew Nevill  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:56:44 GMT, "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Okay, now that I'm done with school for a few weeks, I can think.
{snip]
>After the con, my only firm plans are to visit with Philippa in Nottingham
>and Andrew in Manchester.
>
>I need to be back at the airport for a noon flight out from LGW on Saturday
>the 26th.
>
AS I recall, your plan was Philippa first then me, so you'd be needing to
get from Manchester to Gatwick for 10am? (I'm assuming a 2hr check in)

It's just if you'd like, I can check ahead for train times
>
>
>I'd also like comments on what I should definitely bring, and what I might
>think of bringing but won't need.

An umbrella. Manchester has well deserved reputation for being rainy.
There's even a song about it.


--
Andrew Nevill B.F. D.W. FdV. Reply address: anevill [at] btopenworld.com
AFPWorshipper to Spooky, AFPfiance to Sarah (Nanny Ogg) & S*****
AFPUncle to James Vaughan. You cannot value friends as pennies,
nor can you replace them as easily (Spooky in email, Aug 2001.)
Discworld Convention 2006. 18 - 26 Aug 2006 Hinckley Island Hotel
Hinckley, UK www.dwcon.org
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273252 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 21:57
RuneMaster  
On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:56:44 GMT, Stacie Hanes <house_damodred [at] yahoo.co=
m> =

wrote:

> Oxford is a bit general, but I haven't had a chance to figure out what=
=

> about Oxford I want to see.

Can I suggest:

the Turf Tavern pub dating back to the 14th Century (website =

www.theturftavern.co.uk)
The Bodlean and Ashmolean Collections
Any of the famous colleges, but some may charge admission
The famous Oxford Bookshops, all over the place
The Eagle & Child pub =

(www.headington.org.uk/oxon/stgiles/tour/west/48_49_eagle.ht m) where =

Tolkien, Lewis & the Inklings drank (there should still be a plaque in t=
he =

bar to show their seats!) The pub is also known locally as the Bird & =

Baby, or less politely as the Fowl & Foetus :-)

Have fun!

-- =


"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any =

member of a civilised commuinity, against [their] will is to prevent har=
m =

to others. [Their] own good, either physical or moral, is not a =

sufficient warrant"

John Stuart Mill, On Liberty 1859
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273288 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 23:36
Lesley Weston  
in article Me6cg.5124$x4.90 [at] newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, Stacie Hanes
at house_damodred [at] yahoo.com wrote on 21/05/2006 3:56 PM:

> Okay, now that I'm done with school for a few weeks, I can think.
>
> I'm arriving on Sunday, August 12 at a sort of breakfasty hour. I'm starting
> off by visiting with Alec & family for a few days. While visiting with Alec,
> we plan to see Graham's fetish fair in London, Jane Austen's grave &
> environs, and Oxford. Oxford is a bit general, but I haven't had a chance to
> figure out what about Oxford I want to see.

All the colleges you can manage. The shop in St. Aldates' opposite
Christchurch that is the model for the shop in "Through the Looking Glass".
Port Meadow and Binsey (which has a Saxon Church almost unspoiled), as a
walk to The Trout for a drink, but no-one can afford lunch there so don't
plan on that. Blenheim Palace, which is just outside Woodstock about ten
miles from Oxford, and Woodstock itself. The enormous, hideous Victorian
houses along the Banbury and Woodstock roads, if any are left; they were all
built at the same time when Oxford academics were at last allowed to marry
without having to wait until they became Master (or whatever) of their
college. Keble College in Parks Road, built by the pre-Raphaelites en masse
and looking like it. Magdalene Bridge and Christchurch Meadows, Ship St.

These seem to be mostly architecture, which may not interest you and
anyway, while it seems unlikely that even Blair's lot would have demolished
any of them since I left, one can't be sure, so: Martyr's Memorial in St.
Giles, built to commemorate Cranmer, Latimer and Ridley. The original
Blackwell's in Broad St., and a drink next door at the White Horse. Any of
the villages and small towns surrounding Oxford, especially those called
Chipping <foo>, and the countryside on the way to them and between them -
there should be some coppices somewhere there. The Downs on the way to
Swindon, and the White Horse (the chalk one, not another pub).

I'm homesick. I think I had better go into the mountains here soon and
give the breathtaking beauty all around a good looking at. Or go downtown
and admire the healthy, well-behaved pigeons.

--
Lesley Weston.

Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273294 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 00:17
Stacie Hanes  
Andrew Nevill wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:56:44 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, now that I'm done with school for a few weeks, I can think.
> {snip]
>> After the con, my only firm plans are to visit with Philippa in
>> Nottingham and Andrew in Manchester.

Seems logical to work northward from the con. Although possibly if you are
AT the con, might make sense to ravel north together and then back
southward.

>> I need to be back at the airport for a noon flight out from LGW on
>> Saturday the 26th.
>>
> AS I recall, your plan was Philippa first then me, so you'd be
> needing to get from Manchester to Gatwick for 10am? (I'm assuming a
> 2hr check in)
>
> It's just if you'd like, I can check ahead for train times

Yes, thanks!
--
Anastasia, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273295 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 00:18
Stacie Hanes  
RuneMaster wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:56:44 GMT, Stacie Hanes
> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Oxford is a bit general, but I haven't had a chance to figure out
>> what about Oxford I want to see.
>
> The Eagle & Child pub
> (www.headington.org.uk/oxon/stgiles/tour/west/48_49_eagle.ht m) where
> Tolkien, Lewis & the Inklings drank

Oooooh.

--
Anastasia, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273517 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 14:48
Philippa Cowderoy  
On Sun, 21 May 2006, Stacie Hanes wrote:

> After the con, my only firm plans are to visit with Philippa in Nottingham
> and Andrew in Manchester.
>
> I need to be back at the airport for a noon flight out from LGW on Saturday
> the 26th.
>
> Budget is a consideration; I just need to be semi-conservative with my
> spending.
>

We can probably manage a couple of days, especially if there's anyone else
local wants to say hi who didn't meet you at the con (Jester?). You
probably won't have to spend too much cash, though it'd be nice to eat out
at once (doesn't have to be anywhere flashy, though I'd rather avoid McD's
and BK).

>
> I'd also like comments on what I should definitely bring, and what I might
> think of bringing but won't need.
>

Nothing springs to mind right now, but then I'm bad at that.

--
flippa [at] flippac.org

Society does not owe people jobs.
Society owes it to itself to find people jobs.
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273518 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 14:49
Philippa Cowderoy  
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Philippa Cowderoy wrote:

> though it'd be nice to eat out at once

The pun I don't mind, but the braindead typo suggests too much urgency :-)

--
flippa [at] flippac.org

A problem that's all in your head is still a problem.
Brain damage is but one form of mind damage.
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273523 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 14:59
jester  
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:48:45 +0100, Philippa Cowderoy
<flippa [at] flippac.org> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 May 2006, Stacie Hanes wrote:
>
>> After the con, my only firm plans are to visit with Philippa in Nottingham
>> and Andrew in Manchester.
>
>We can probably manage a couple of days, especially if there's anyone else
>local wants to say hi who didn't meet you at the con (Jester?).

Yeah, depending on when, where, what and (lack of) work.

--
Andy Brown
God does not play dice with the Universe. -- Albert Einstein.
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273569 ] Mo, 22 Mai 2006 10:58
Thomas Zahr  
Stacie Hanes posted:

> Probably good dates for a London meet would be the 15th,
> 16th, maybe the 17th. Comments?
>

As they are during the week, they are emminently possible, can't confirm being in
London that far ahead though (leastways not for a specific day). Will let you know
closer to the event if I will be able to make it.

--
Ciao

Thomas =:-)
<http://www.zahr.de>
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273572 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 20:40
Ross  
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:48:45 +0100, Philippa Cowderoy wrote in
<Pine.WNT.4.61.0605231310260.1556 [at] SLINKY>, seen in alt.fan.pratchett:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006, Stacie Hanes wrote:
[...]
> > Budget is a consideration; I just need to be semi-conservative with my
> > spending.
[...]
> probably won't have to spend too much cash, though it'd be nice to eat out
> at once (doesn't have to be anywhere flashy, though I'd rather avoid McD's
> and BK).

This is the point in my voyages at which I would generally fall into a
Wetherspoons, if only because I can have a bottle of Westons cider
along with my whatever-looks-vaguely-edible-on-the-menu.
--
Ross, in Lincoln, most likely being cynical or sarcastic, as ever.
Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me.

Demonstration of poor photography: <http://www.rosspix.me.uk> - updated with Czech photos
AD: <http://www.merciacharters.co.uk> for European charters occasionally gripped by me
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273579 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 20:57
Philippa Cowderoy  
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Ross wrote:

> On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:48:45 +0100, Philippa Cowderoy wrote in
> <Pine.WNT.4.61.0605231310260.1556 [at] SLINKY>, seen in alt.fan.pratchett:
> > On Sun, 21 May 2006, Stacie Hanes wrote:
> [...]
> > > Budget is a consideration; I just need to be semi-conservative with my
> > > spending.
> [...]
> > probably won't have to spend too much cash, though it'd be nice to eat out
> > at once (doesn't have to be anywhere flashy, though I'd rather avoid McD's
> > and BK).
>
> This is the point in my voyages at which I would generally fall into a
> Wetherspoons, if only because I can have a bottle of Westons cider
> along with my whatever-looks-vaguely-edible-on-the-menu.
>

They're tolerable, but I tend to find the food so-so and unless they've
lucked into a beer I really like the selection's often not as good as I'd
like either. Plus if you're in Nottingham then you may as well wander the
extra distance to somewhere like the Bell Inn.

--
flippa [at] flippac.org

Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. Most
of the time you just get burnt worse though.
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273593 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 21:29
Ross  
On Tue, 23 May 2006 19:57:55 +0100, Philippa Cowderoy wrote in
<Pine.WNT.4.61.0605231956330.1556 [at] SLINKY>, seen in alt.fan.pratchett:
> On Tue, 23 May 2006, Ross wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:48:45 +0100, Philippa Cowderoy wrote in
> > <Pine.WNT.4.61.0605231310260.1556 [at] SLINKY>, seen in alt.fan.pratchett:
> > > On Sun, 21 May 2006, Stacie Hanes wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > Budget is a consideration; I just need to be semi-conservative with my
> > > > spending.
> > [...]
> > > probably won't have to spend too much cash, though it'd be nice to eat out
> > > at once (doesn't have to be anywhere flashy, though I'd rather avoid McD's
> > > and BK).
> >
> > This is the point in my voyages at which I would generally fall into a
> > Wetherspoons, if only because I can have a bottle of Westons cider
> > along with my whatever-looks-vaguely-edible-on-the-menu.
>
> They're tolerable, but I tend to find the food so-so

I generally consider them to be the McDonald's of the pub world: if
nothing else, you know what you're going to get. And that it'll take
*ages* to get to you, during which time you can commune with a bottle
or two of vaguely decent cider.


> and unless they've
> lucked into a beer I really like the selection's often not as good as I'd
> like either.

I don't pay much attention to the beer range, but I hear tell that
they're not famed for the quality of their keeping, not to mention
their habit of forgetting to turn labels around so you can see what's
on and what isn't.


> Plus if you're in Nottingham then you may as well wander the
> extra distance to somewhere like the Bell Inn.

Does it serve decent cider, though. ;-)
--
Ross, in Lincoln, most likely being cynical or sarcastic, as ever.
Reply-to will bounce. Replace the junk-trap with my name to e-mail me.

Demonstration of poor photography: <http://www.rosspix.me.uk> - updated with Czech photos
AD: <http://www.merciacharters.co.uk> for European charters occasionally gripped by me
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273615 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 22:51
Andrew Nevill  
On Mon, 22 May 2006 22:17:04 GMT, "Anastasia" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Andrew Nevill wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:56:44 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
>> <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Seems logical to work northward from the con. Although possibly if you are
>AT the con, might make sense to ravel north together and then back
>southward.
>
Whatever you want to do. I've booked the whole week 21-25 August off work so
you can come to M'cr I'm happy to work around dates Phillippa may have

I am attending the con as you know, so going back to Manchester together is
doable.
Currently planning on leaving Monday evening after the Closing Ceremony but
if you wanted to stay till Tuesday morning then I'm sure I can change my
hotel booking
>>> I need to be back at the airport for a noon flight out from LGW on
>>> Saturday the 26th.
>>>
>> AS I recall, your plan was Philippa first then me, so you'd be
>> needing to get from Manchester to Gatwick for 10am? (I'm assuming a
>> 2hr check in)
>>
>> It's just if you'd like, I can check ahead for train times
>
>Yes, thanks!

I have done a quick check online.

Note that the website only goes up to 3 months in advance so it doesn't do
26/08/06 et so I asked for the preceding Saturday (19/08/06) as I suspect
the times won't be that different. I shall of course try to remember this
weekend when the proper times should be available

Times assume a 2 hr check in so you need to arrive approx 10am at Gatwick
Airport. I'm afraid it's a VERY early stat.

Manchester 0520
Watford Junction arr 0757
Watford Junction dep 0811
London Gatwick 0922

Manchester 0609
London Euston 0848
Underground to Victoria
London Victoria 0930
London Gatwick 1000

Manchester 0644
Watford 0856
Watford 0911
Gatwick 1022

Price: £62.30 GBP

I'm gong to make a suggestion, now. Have you considered flying from
Manchester to Gatwick?

www.manchesterairport.co.uk has the following flight
Manchester 0810
Gatwick 0915
It gives a price of £38.00 GBP

I suspect that even with a taxi to the airport (bear in mind I have no car)
this may work out cheaper than the train. I can't imagine it being more
expensive

Have no idea of check in time as all the website say is it'll be on your
ticket but I imagine check in for domestic flights would be no more than
hour. It's a British Airways flight also and they have a new online check in
which I imagine would cut down this time substantially. Don't know if you'd
need to book though www.BA.com to be able use this facility though and the
price may be different on their site. But I suggest, Mistress, that's worth
looking into.

Sorry to throw all this at you. I know it's a lot to digest but you did ask

Oh and, erm, sorry for the spiders under the sofa on afp. Well you would
expect to find some there. And I couldn't resist teasing

All the best Stacie. Looking forward to meeting you and having you stay





--
Andrew Nevill B.F. D.W. FdV. Reply address: anevill [at] btopenworld.com
AFPWorshipper to Spooky, AFPfiance to Sarah (Nanny Ogg) & S*****
AFPUncle to James Vaughan. You cannot value friends as pennies,
nor can you replace them as easily (Spooky in email, Aug 2001.)
Discworld Convention 2006. 18 - 26 Aug 2006 Hinckley Island Hotel
Hinckley, UK www.dwcon.org
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273616 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 22:52
Andrew Nevill  
On Mon, 22 May 2006 22:17:04 GMT, "Anastasia" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Andrew Nevill wrote:

>>
>> It's just if you'd like, I can check ahead for train times
>
>Yes, thanks!

Replied via email
--
Andrew Nevill B.F. D.W. FdV. Reply address: anevill [at] btopenworld.com
AFPWorshipper to Spooky, AFPfiance to Sarah (Nanny Ogg) & S*****
AFPUncle to James Vaughan. You cannot value friends as pennies,
nor can you replace them as easily (Spooky in email, Aug 2001.)
Discworld Convention 2006. 18 - 26 Aug 2006 Hinckley Island Hotel
Hinckley, UK www.dwcon.org
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273617 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 22:56
Andrew Nevill  
On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:52:51 +0100, Andrew Nevill <spookystwerp [at] hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 May 2006 22:17:04 GMT, "Anastasia" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Andrew Nevill wrote:
>
>>>
>>> It's just if you'd like, I can check ahead for train times
>>
>>Yes, thanks!
>
>Replied via email

Well, I thought I did

My apologies for posting this


--
Andrew Nevill B.F. D.W. FdV. Reply address: anevill [at] btopenworld.com
AFPWorshipper to Spooky, AFPfiance to Sarah (Nanny Ogg) & S*****
AFPUncle to James Vaughan. You cannot value friends as pennies,
nor can you replace them as easily (Spooky in email, Aug 2001.)
Discworld Convention 2006. 18 - 26 Aug 2006 Hinckley Island Hotel
Hinckley, UK www.dwcon.org
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #273635 ] Di, 23 Mai 2006 23:08
jester  
On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:51:59 +0100, Andrew Nevill
<spookystwerp [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>I'm happy to work around dates Phillippa may have

I'll get in trouble for giggling at that phrasing, won't I?

--
Andy Brown
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of
tapes hurtling down the highway.
-- Andrew Tannenbaum
Re: [I] Um, Again with Stacie in England.... [message #274755 ] So, 28 Mai 2006 02:33
graham  
Hi there,

On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:56:44 GMT, "Stacie Hanes"
<house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

>we plan to see Graham's fetish fair in London,

Just to be on the safe side, when you're going to visit, check the
details on http://www.londonfetishfair.co.uk

Occasionally events have forced a change of venue, although, gods
willing, we'll keep the current location for a good long time.

Cheers,
Graham.
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